Philip A. Luty arrested - again

[MicroBalrog]

On 22nd May 2009 the Homegunsmith (Philip A. Luty) was, for the fifth time in ten years, attacked by an armed police unit and violently arrested at gunpoint.

In their latest onslaught against freedom of speech, press, personal expression, and dissemination of ideas, the henchmen of the State charged the Homegunsmith with "criminal offences"—namely "Making a record of information likely to be of assistance to terrorists." (Part of the all-encompassing 2000 Terrorism Act.) That's right folks, writing books or articles on one of man's oldest occupations—gunmaking—is now tantamount to an act of terrorism in modern day Britain.

The Homegunsmith.com website has been strategically closed whilst wounds are licked and the troops regrouped.

—Ken Holder
Keeper of the Web Pages

http://thehomegunsmith.com/

[browningguy]

That's what happens when you live in a totalitarian state that watches everything it's subjects do.

[230RN]

You mean you can't even take notes on how to blue a barrel?

How about on reloading 5.56 ammo?

Holy cow. Now that's a Totalitarian State.

I hope he didn't save any articles from this page.

I'd better destroy my High School Chemistry notes.

[JImbothefiveth]

Just more "progress"

[86thecat]

So he was just selling information on how to blue guns? I thought he had a history of pushing the limits pretty hard.

[JERRY]

well, the limeys let it get that way....they traded the little freedom they had for free substandard health care and a gubmint "dole" for every lazy bum out there....

not to fear UK, we are slipping your way quickly these days....

[Mannlicher]

When your government no longer recognizes the will of it's Citizens, or works in their interest, then you are living under an oppressive government.

Like we do in America now.

[Warlocke]

Where did this happen?

Why haven't you freed him? With or with-out the violence?

WTF?

[Hatchett]

Isn't he the one who published plans for how to build homemade Sten guns, and made a working prototype himself?

Of course I don't think that warrants prosecution but let's call it what it is. I don't think they're worried about gun bluing.

[lee n. field]

That is him.

I have one of the books. Not something I personally would want to do, short of direst need, but looks like it would work.

[ThrottleJockey]

they traded the little freedom they had for free substandard health care and a gubmint "dole" for every lazy bum out there.

This is a VERY uneducated statement. The British healthcare system has existed since the end of WWII. Had it not been for their HC system, they would likely have wound up a 3rd world country for ever more. You see after the war GB was left in shambles and there was no industry, no jobs, nothing. The people were given jobs building hospitals, paid for there work and given their HC. In their case, the way the national health care came to be was actually a VERY good thing, now they just need some reform so they can get higher quality care.

[damien]

We know the UK is screwed up as far as their lack of freedoms go. I am not surprised at this at all. If he knew that this was illegal in the UK, why did he do it? I don't agree with Germany's laws on Nazi (historical) logos, etc., but I wouldn't break the law if I was a German. If he had a thing for firearms freedoms, he should have moved a long time ago before his various arrests and convictions made it hard on him to do that.

[Dark_Harvest]

"now they just need some reform"


look! a reform-shaped magic bullet! come on, man... seriously?

[Warlocke]

In their case, the way the national health care came to be was actually a VERY good thing, now they just need some reform so they can get higher quality care.

Good for them. Now it's time to introduce market forces to control cost, increase access and improve on the quality of care...kind of like what we want to do. Huh?

[Hatchett]

My experiences with British healthcare when I briefly stayed there with relatives were always at least satisfactory and free.

At the same time, my many, many experiences with American healthcare around the time I had my bone marrow transplant were very, very frequently unsatisfactory to the point of rage and cost me tens of thousands and my insurance company millions.

Of course I don't presume to claim that makes me an expert on either nation's health care but us sitting here pretending we know how to "fix" their health care system when ours is far from perfect is the same sort of self-bloated egotism they equip when complaining about our lack of gun control.

[Gator]

So writing about gunsmithing is criminal, yet Britain has allowed itself to become the terrorist capital of the western world. They are so s^&#$*d!

[Shung]

That's right folks, writing books or articles on one of man's oldest occupations—gunmaking—is now tantamount to an act of terrorism in modern day Britain.

God save the.... well, there's nothing left to save out there...

[shroomy123]

hi new to this site,but just thourt i'd let you know that ive just been raided by the anti terrorist division on tuesday there warrent to enter and search premises for eveidence of an indictable offence:

Firearms,ammunition,component parts and documentation detailing the processes by which to manufatrue firearms and ammunition.Machinary and tooling for the production of weaponry/parts. The documentation will inculude internet manuals and publications relating any such activitys. any other materials used for the production of firearms. Vehicals present at the property that are included in the warrant information.

P.A.Lutys name was mentioned and the document that i downloaded from his website on ammunition was mentioned that i downloaded 4 years ago. These guys came with a moblie laboratory, forensics,detectives, police the lot. they were there at my home for six and a half hours riping the place apart. they confiscated my laptop and two books one by p.a.luty , they wanted a lot more!! but i said no, freedom of speach all the way and i intend to get my books back.I wont lie i **** my pants even though i have done nothing wrong.
Beware big brother is watching you!!!

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Of course I don't presume to claim that makes me an expert on either nation's health care but us sitting here pretending we know how to "fix" their health care system when ours is far from perfect is the same sort of self-bloated egotism they equip when complaining about our lack of gun control.

You are right, it doesn't make you an expert. However there are many who are experts, particularly physicians who have worked in both markets and have expounded upon the British system's shortcomings, and indeed it has shortcomings. Try getting that bone marrow transplant in jolly old England...

I don't know what you mean by "they equip".

In their case, the way the national health care came to be was actually a VERY good thing, now they just need some reform so they can get higher quality care.

More like a major overhaul. I took an employee to their "free" healthcare outlet. He had a toothache from a cavity where the filling had fallen out. I fully expected the dentist to replace the filling. Instead he insisted on extracting the tooth completely. I guess that is a cure but at the time it seemed rather extreme. After waiting for 6 hours and arguing with the dentist for a half hour, I was told either the tooth gets extracted or we leave - no real dentistry.

Granted that is anecdotal evidence, but there is much more statistical evidence from a variety of sources which show that the problem is systemic.

Back on topic, the United Kingdoms appear to have collectively lost their minds, with this and the recent release of the Lockerbie bomber, etc.

[Hatchett]

However there are many who are experts, particularly physicians who have worked in both markets and have expounded upon the British system's shortcomings,

You can find as many experts who say it works fine. That's the nature of finding experts.

Try getting that bone marrow transplant in jolly old England...

Probably much easier than getting one here without the necessary resources, which I would not have had if I hadn't still been under the financial protection of my parents.

[lawson4]

Is this discussion about gunsmithing getting someone arrested or UK health care?

lawson4

[pmeisel]

Good point, any news about Luty?

[AEA]

Prime example of the "Common Sense" actions The Chosen One has planned for you.

Remember........YOU.......voted for this and now you are going to get it!

[ceetee]

P.A.Lutys name was mentioned and the document that i downloaded from his website on ammunition was mentioned that i downloaded 4 years ago. These guys came with a moblie laboratory, forensics,detectives, police the lot. they were there at my home for six and a half hours riping the place apart. they confiscated my laptop and two books one by p.a.luty , they wanted a lot more!!

So... let me get this straight - in England now, it's against the law to have KNOWLEDGE about how to make guns?

[zxcvbob]

So... let me get this straight - in England now, it's against the law to have KNOWLEDGE about how to make guns?

Knowledge is power. And we can't allow that now, can we?